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Regardé aussi. Au top Saliba :amoureu:

 

Effectivement très puissant dans les duels mais surtout très propre ! Il récupère les ballons debout sans faire faute (avec des petits taquets de l'épaule aux attaquants pour leur signifier de plus repasser dans le secteur lol).

 

Précis dans ses relances, bon sens du placement et bcp de sérénité. Juste peut mieux faire dans les airs. 

 

J'aimerais aussi le voir dans un match plus dynamique parce que Saint Etienne joue très défensif (3DCs) et le rythme de la ligue 1 que c'est lent... Rien à voir avec l'intensité de la Premier League. 

 

Sinon suivre Saint-Etienne c'est sympa ils ont plusieurs jeunes joueurs talentueux. Je pense à Fofana, un autre DC de 18 ans vraiment excellent. Ils ont aussi Abi, 19ans,très bon attaquant.

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Oui c'est ça il revient tout juste de blessure, après il joue en Ligue 1 mais le potentiel est vraiment énorme. Des DC qui dégage autant de sérénité à 18 ans, j'ai vue Varanne De Light et c'est tout je crois... 

 

 

Enfin bref dommage qu'on ait pas fait Soyuncu, il est monstrueux avec Leicester, on aurait pu l'avoir pour 20M l'été dernier si Emery avait branché son cerveau. Une charnière Saliba Soyuncu aurait été une des meilleurs du championnat, en plus complémentaire, Soyuncu aime presser l'attaquant, Saliba en couverture... bref :zZZzzZz:

 

 

A voir les plans du club sur la défense, qui à associer à Saliba. Upamecano, sa clause qui passe de 100M à 60M... déjà voudra t-il venir si on loupe encore la C1... et puis la question peut se poser, vaut-il cette somme ? à lui seul c'est plus chère que les transferts de Saliba et Soyuncu... et je suis même pas sur qu'actuellement il soit plus fort que les deux.

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Upamecano, de ce que j'ai vu, est loin de valoir les 60M de sa clause libératoire. 

 

Si Holding ne perce pas, et que le club se penche sur un nouveau DC, je préférerais que celui-ci soit gaucher pour la complémentarité avec le DC droitier (Saliba). Même système qu'au Barca, à City ou en équipe de France. 

 

C'est pour ça que j'espérais Hermoso cet été. Sinon actuellement les DCs gauchers que j'aime bien sont Tyrone Mings et Pau Torres. 

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Il y a 1 heure, Ezio a dit :

Oui c'est ça il revient tout juste de blessure, après il joue en Ligue 1 mais le potentiel est vraiment énorme. Des DC qui dégage autant de sérénité à 18 ans, j'ai vue Varanne De Light et c'est tout je crois... 

 

 

Enfin bref dommage qu'on ait pas fait Soyuncu, il est monstrueux avec Leicester, on aurait pu l'avoir pour 20M l'été dernier si Emery avait branché son cerveau. Une charnière Saliba Soyuncu aurait été une des meilleurs du championnat, en plus complémentaire, Soyuncu aime presser l'attaquant, Saliba en couverture... bref :zZZzzZz:

 

 

A voir les plans du club sur la défense, qui à associer à Saliba. Upamecano, sa clause qui passe de 100M à 60M... déjà voudra t-il venir si on loupe encore la C1... et puis la question peut se poser, vaut-il cette somme ? à lui seul c'est plus chère que les transferts de Saliba et Soyuncu... et je suis même pas sur qu'actuellement il soit plus fort que les deux.

Si Emery avait branché son cerveau ? 

 

T es au courant que c'est Sven qui a dirigé le Mercato en 2018 ou pas ? 

 

Je veux bien qu'on tape sur Emery et tout ses défauts mais venir lui inventer des trucs où il a rien dit Et rien fait c'est quand même pas abuser ? 

 

Bientot ca sera la faute à Emery la faim dans le Monde, les guerres, et vos vies qui vont Pas COmme vous voulez Qu elle soie ou ca se passe COmment ? 

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Il y a 19 heures, Arno a dit :

Si Emery avait branché son cerveau ? 

 

T es au courant que c'est Sven qui a dirigé le Mercato en 2018 ou pas ? 

 

Je veux bien qu'on tape sur Emery et tout ses défauts mais venir lui inventer des trucs où il a rien dit Et rien fait c'est quand même pas abuser ? 

 

Bientot ca sera la faute à Emery la faim dans le Monde, les guerres, et vos vies qui vont Pas COmme vous voulez Qu elle soie ou ca se passe COmment ? 

Mais... c'est les infos qui étaient sorti à l'époque. Sven voulait Almiron et Soyuncu. Refusé par Emery. Si t'as des articles pour me prouver le contraire. Envoi. 

 

Il y a 21 heures, Oxlade a dit :

Upamecano, de ce que j'ai vu, est loin de valoir les 60M de sa clause libératoire. 

Apres lui aussi revient de blessure et il a que 20 ans.

 

Quand je vois la communication de Guendouzi sur Instagram à poser souvent avec lui. Je me demande si le club lui a pas demandé de convaincre le joueur 

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il y a 8 minutes, Ezio a dit :

Mais... c'est les infos qui étaient sorti à l'époque. Sven voulait Almiron et Soyuncu. Refusé par Emery. Si t'as des articles pour me prouver le contraire. Envoi. 

 

Apres lui aussi revient de blessure et il a que 20 ans.

 

Quand je vois la communication de Guendouzi sur Instagram à poser souvent avec lui. Je me demande si le club lui a pas demandé de convaincre le joueur 

Envoi Toi tes sources mdr 

 

Sven voulait Sokratis, c'est d'ailleurs lui qui l avait fait venir à Dortmund a l'époque. Soyuncu avait été jugé trop inexpérimenté par Sven meme s'il avait effectivement été scouté. 

 

Un momenr donner si tu veux cracher sur Unai, continue à cracher sur ce qu on voit tout les weekend mais Va Pas lui inventer des tords pour les Mercato, il a absolument rien gerer de ce qui s'est passé en 2018. 

 

Bref j'attends ta source 

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il y a 25 minutes, Arno a dit :

Envoi Toi tes sources mdr 

 

Sven voulait Sokratis, c'est d'ailleurs lui qui l avait fait venir à Dortmund a l'époque. Soyuncu avait été jugé trop inexpérimenté par Sven meme s'il avait effectivement été scouté. 

 

Un momenr donner si tu veux cracher sur Unai, continue à cracher sur ce qu on voit tout les weekend mais Va Pas lui inventer des tords pour les Mercato, il a absolument rien gerer de ce qui s'est passé en 2018. 

 

Bref j'attends ta source 

J'attends les tiennes aussi. Ce que j'avais lu sur twitter, d'ailleurs Jad avait spécifié que Sven était parti à cause de Emery, qui n'avait PAS eu les pleins pouvoir sur le recrutement comme lui avait promit Gazidis. 

 

 

Quel rapport entre Sokratis et Soyuncu ? Soyuncu pas assez expérimenter ? c'est quoi cet argument claqué, on parle du mec qui a signé Guendouzi et Saliba à 18 19 ans, c'est vrai que eux ont eu une grosse expérience avant de signer, Sokratis Soyuncu, c'est pas du tout le même âge ni le même profils. Dire que Emery s'occupe pas des transferts, oui oui on l'a vue dans les dossiers Denis Suarez et Ceballos, un flop et un autre qui fait pas du tout l’unanimité. 

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il y a 17 minutes, Ezio a dit :

J'attends les tiennes aussi. Ce que j'avais lu sur twitter, d'ailleurs Jad avait spécifié que Sven était parti à cause de Emery, qui n'avait PAS eu les pleins pouvoir sur le recrutement comme lui avait promit Gazidis. 

 

 

Quel rapport entre Sokratis et Soyuncu ? Soyuncu pas assez expérimenter ? c'est quoi cet argument claqué, on parle du mec qui a signé Guendouzi et Saliba à 18 19 ans, c'est vrai que eux ont eu une grosse expérience avant de signer, Sokratis Soyuncu, c'est pas du tout le même âge ni le même profils. Dire que Emery s'occupe pas des transferts, oui oui on l'a vue dans les dossiers Denis Suarez et Ceballos, un flop et un autre qui fait pas du tout l’unanimité. 

MAis vient pas me parler d'argument claqué mdr :lol: c'est Pas Moi Qui dirige le recrutement d'Arsenal alors viens pas me casser les couilles avec ça. 

 

Oui Emery fin 2018 des échos qu'on a eu il voulait avoir plus de main sur le Mercato, MAis je vois toujours pas le rapport avec le Mercato 2018 enfaite ? Il venait d'arriver il a que dalle pilote Emery. 

 

C'est Sven et Raul Qui ont tout géré. Emery à commencé à foutre sa patte fin 2018 ce qui nous a effectivement valu le gros flop Denis Suarez

 

Mais moi j ai pas de sources à te montrer tu racontes n'importe quoi, tu viens inventer des trucs Qui existe pas. C'est Sven qui a mis le veto pour le défenseur Turque pour faire venir Sokra. 

 

Que tu reproches Emery sa gestion  désastreuse de La Défense avec sa paire Sokra-Mustafi je veux bien, CAr La c'est 100% pour sa pomme mais que tu dise que Soynucu est Pas au Club à cause d'Unai... Stop inventer des sottises, tape le sur d autres sujets, t'as l embarras du choix, sa gestion de l'effectif, ses 11 degueulasses mais vient pas ramener le

mercato 2018 ou le mec a meme Pas dis oui ou non. 

 

Fin je sais pas Pas au bout d'un moment, je suis d'accord sur l entier des reproches faite sur le coach Qui fait du grand n'importe quoi, mais dire qu'il a pas voulu d'un joueur alors qu'on avait un directeur sportif à ce moment là, Ca me paraît complètement délirant. 

 

Et meme aujourdhui, Ceballos je suis pas sur que ça soit complètement Unai, Pepe j en parle meme pas, il voulait Zaha de base. Il a en aucun cas le dernier mot, il l'a eu juste pour Denis Suarez et à mon avis il a eu CAr ça engageait aucune indemnité ou fort salaire 

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il y a 33 minutes, Ezio a dit :

J'attends les tiennes aussi. Ce que j'avais lu sur twitter, d'ailleurs Jad avait spécifié que Sven était parti à cause de Emery, qui n'avait PAS eu les pleins pouvoir sur le recrutement comme lui avait promit Gazidis. 

 

 

Quel rapport entre Sokratis et Soyuncu ? Soyuncu pas assez expérimenter ? c'est quoi cet argument claqué, on parle du mec qui a signé Guendouzi et Saliba à 18 19 ans, c'est vrai que eux ont eu une grosse expérience avant de signer, Sokratis Soyuncu, c'est pas du tout le même âge ni le même profils. Dire que Emery s'occupe pas des transferts, oui oui on l'a vue dans les dossiers Denis Suarez et Ceballos, un flop et un autre qui fait pas du tout l’unanimité. 

 

Pour Saliba, la rumeur du jour dit que c'est une "trouvaille" de Cagigao, de même que Martinelli.

Vous pouvez poursuivre ^^

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il y a 10 minutes, Arno a dit :

Mais moi j ai pas de sources à te montrer tu racontes n'importe quoi, tu viens inventer des trucs Qui existe pas. C'est Sven qui a mis le veto pour le défenseur Turque pour faire venir Sokra. 

 

Que tu reproches Emery sa gestion  désastreuse de La Défense avec sa paire Sokra-Mustafi je veux bien, CAr La c'est 100% pour sa pomme mais que tu dise que Soynucu est Pas au Club à cause d'Unai... Stop inventer des sottises, tape le sur d autres sujets, t'as l embarras du choix, sa gestion de l'effectif, ses 11 degueulasses mais vient pas ramener le

mercato 2018 ou le mec a meme Pas dis oui ou non. 

Mais comment Sven pourrait mettre son véto sur un joueur qui l'a lui même proposé au club ? c'est logique la. Soyuncu c'était un nodoby donc soit il le propose au club, ou alors il le propose pas, mais il peut se rétracter au dernier moment. enfin bref 

 

il y a 6 minutes, Simpson a dit :

 

Pour Saliba, la rumeur du jour dit que c'est une "trouvaille" de Cagigao, de même que Martinelli.

Vous pouvez poursuivre ^^

La meilleure rumeur c'est celle comme quoi le Réal voudrait Saliba

 

 

Alors qu'il est même pas encore chez nous

 

 

 

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Excellent article sur Saliba que je vous partage (pris depuis The Athletic)

 

 

Cold blooded, ambitious on the ball and already learning English – William Saliba will be worth the wait for Arsenal

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The full-time whistle blows. William Saliba clenches his fist and turns to embrace two of his team-mates. Both men are more than a decade older but it is Saliba’s arms that envelop them, his battle cry that roars in their ears. This, it is clear, is not an ordinary 18-year-old.

Saint-Etienne have beaten Monaco by a goal to nil. Their opponent’s star striker, Wissam Ben Yedder, came into the game on a run of nine goals in eight games. And then he ran into Saliba, who calmly secured a third clean sheet in four Ligue 1 appearances.

Throughout the match, there’s a serenity to the way Saliba casually mops up danger. Bernard Diomede, the former Liverpool winger who coached Saliba for France under-20s, has remarked on the centre-half’s “cold blood”. On the field he is impassive, impassable.

And yet, in the dressing room after the game, it is Saliba who leads the celebrations. It’s he who beats out the rhythm of their victory songs, re-purposing a massage table as a drum-kit. After the poise, the party.

The combination of coolness and passion, of ice and fire, is at the heart of Saliba’s identity. It is serving him well. In the old mining town of Saint-Etienne, Arsenal may have struck gold.


“Bondy is a well for footballers,” says Saliba, the latest in a formidable list of sporting personalities to have been pulled out of the region and into stardom. “There must be something magic in the water.”

This particular nook of the Parisian outskirts has a borderline supernatural capacity to produce players. Aside from Saliba, jet-heeled Jonathan Ikone, now at Lille, and World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe were also spotted here. From the raw materials mined in this neglected neighbourhood, great careers have been forged.

Technically, Bondy forms part of the wider Parisian region known as the Ile-de-France. To most, it is just another of the city’s northern banlieues: suburban outposts infamous for a lack of opportunity and a surplus of social unrest. Here, the luminosity of the City of Light is but a distant glow. And in this multi-cultural melting pot, one religion unites: football.

There are currently 30,000 registered coaches in the Parisian banlieues, overseeing almost a quarter of a million aspiring footballers. In regions where unemployment among younger residents been as high as 40 per cent, the opportunity to play is perennial. It’s an area more populous than Portugal, now plagued by scouts sifting for gold in the backstreets. And it’s here that France’s World Cup-winning team found its identity: with Paul Pogba of Lagny-Sur-Marne, N’Golo Kanté of Suresnes, and Mbappe of Bondy.

Despite a three-year age gap, Mbappe and Saliba’s stories have plenty in common. They attended the same primary school and when Saliba started playing football aged six, it was with the AS Bondy team coached by Mbappe’s father, Wilfrid. Saliba is still an occasional caller at the Mbappe family home. “He taught me everything”, he told Le Populaire. “If I’m here today, it’s thanks to him.”

Back then, Mbappe and the younger Saliba both dreamt of being match-winners. In his youth, Saliba alternated between playing either in attacking midfield or up front. In doing so, he honed the close control that separates him from many other centre-halves. Although AS Bondy had access to an astroturf pitch, it was not unusual for their teams to be made to train on the neighbouring dirt field. On that dusty, uneven surface, champions are made.

A growth spurt saw him redeployed as a defensive midfielder and he began to catch the eye of several professional clubs. Tonnio Ricardio, one of the youth coaches at AS Bondy, told France Bleu: “William was ahead in his body type. He was a little clumsy in his movements because of his size but, technically, he wasn’t bad at all. At the time, our under-13 team outclassed our under-15s. As a defensive midfielder, William was very strong in the duels, recovered many balls and broke the lines. He was always looking forward.”

It’s here that Mbappe and Saliba’s stories diverge. While the former was recruited to the illustrious Clairefontaine academy, Saliba failed to make the grade in trials with PSG, Auxerre and Bordeaux. Instead, he remained in his home city of Seine-Saint-Denis, joining local side FC Montfermeil at age 12. Perhaps Saliba might never have fulfilled his potential were it not for a fateful positional switch to centre-half. Suddenly, his power and technique was cast in a new light.

Fabio Frasconi had coached Saliba for two seasons at AS Bondy but was staggered by the transformation: “[Montfermeil] is where he exploded for two seasons. Once settled in central defence, he became monstrous. Even when he was pressed by three players, he was never afraid. And if it went bad for his team, he went into attack where he’d create a huge mess, scoring or causing a penalty.”

Coach Abdelaziz Kaddour, who pioneered the positional switch, knew he had something special. Even then there were signs of the force of personality that would later mark Saliba out as a natural leader. Kaddour told 20 Minutes, “Aside from his footballing qualities, he already had a lot of charisma for a young player of 13 who was playing in the under-15s. In the dressing room, he was a force and he would say the right things. He looked everyone in the eyes.”

Kaddour was another mentor for Saliba, even going so far as to turn up at his home to ensure he was as diligent about his academic studies as his football. The coach wanted to be certain Saliba was prepared for a life outside of football, just in case the call never came.

Saliba did improve his grades but it became increasingly clear his future lay in football. It was at Montfermeil that Saint-Etienne scout Ludovic Paradinas first noticed the young defender. Paradinas had already found Jonathan Bamba and Arnaud Nordin, and was struck by Saliba’s unusually high skill-level for a centre-half. Troyes contested his signature but the long-standing partnership between Montfermeil and Saint-Etienne edged them out. Saliba was 13 and already marking 15-year-olds out of games. He was ready for the next step.


It is customary that the Saint-Etienne academy players live at the training ground complex. What’s unusual about Saliba is that once he stepped up to the first team, he stayed there.

At the end of his breakout 2018-19 season, training centre director Philippe Guillemet confirmed to Le Parisien: “He is still there. He is peaceful. He wanted to stay in the centre to be quiet, to recover well. No travelling. He’s a little dad to the youngest. Everyone loves it. He gives them advice.” Saliba, it seems, saw no reason to move. In St. Stephen’s city, the boy from the banlieues had found something like home.

It was during the 2016-17 season that Saint-Etienne’s fans first began to hear about a towering teenage centre-half destined for the first team. Saliba played 26 games as the academy side won their division, beating fierce rivals Lyon twice. The following year, he racked up 34 appearances across the under-17s and under-19s, also appearing for the reserves. In May 2018, his progress was rewarded with a first professional contract. He was barely 17, yet just four months later, he was making his Ligue 1 debut.

The then Saint-Etienne manager, Jean-Louis Gasset, was a catalyst in Saliba’s development. Having spent the vast majority of his career working as an assistant, Gasset took the reigns in December 2017 — his first managerial job in the French top flight since 1999. Gasset stabilised the team in his first season before setting about a search for new blood. Loic Perrin’s defensive partnership with Neven Subotic was ailing, and many pundits thought the experienced centre-half was finished. However, following a recommendation from under-19 coach Razik Nedder, Saliba was identified as someone who could support the ageing yet iconic Perrin.

 

And so it was that Saliba made his full debut on September 25, 2018, against Toulouse. There were some nerves but fortunately he had experienced team-mates to call upon for support. Saliba told the website of LFP, France’s governing body: “In my first match, Yann M’Vila told me not to hesitate to put the ball to him when I was in trouble, even if he was under pressure. They made me all comfortable. It was the ideal way to be thrown in at the deep end.”

By the end of February, Saliba had become a permanent fixture in the senior group. As with any young defender, there were growing pains. Earlier this year, Arsene Wenger admitted, “You pay for the education of young players with points. If I play a 20-year old centre-back, I know he’ll cost me points during the season and I have to stand up for that. A less-talented 28-year-old would cost me less points. However, by 23 or 24 you have a player.” Gasset understood as much, and kept faith with his protege. “Even when I was doing poorly, because of my youth and inexperience, he continued to play me,” Saliba explained. “It is thanks to him that I was able to have this progression.”

Between games, Gasset would work with Saliba on his marking and positional sense, encouraging him to study video tapes of Thiago Silva and Raphael Varane. He also helped shape Saliba off the pitch. “He taught me to be a man,” the centre-half surmises.

Not that he was lacking in maturity. Centre-half Perrin illustrated Saliba’s preternatural assurance in an interview with L’Equipe, saying: “When he arrived in the dressing room of the pros, he was reserved, but now he’s started joking about with us. On May 2, we celebrated the under-19s winning the [Coupe] Gambardella and before joining them William said in a serious tone, ‘Come on, let’s celebrate the kids’ achievement.’ It was funny because only recently, he was playing for them.”

Saliba’s form rewarded him with a new contract, and Saint-Etienne with European qualification. He was also called up for French under-20 World Cup squad last summer, but a problem with his abductor muscle prevented him taking part. Injury may have kept Saliba from the international stage but it hadn’t prevented him from appearing on the radar of some of Europe’s biggest clubs. Having borrowed €25 million between 2017 and 2019, Saint-Etienne needed to generate funds. Even with European football, selling Saliba became inevitable: his new contract was more a way of ensuring they extracted maximum value than any realistic attempt to keep the player at the Stade Geoffroy-Guichard.

Arsenal led the charge, having watched Saliba extensively in the second half of last season. Crucially, they were prepared to meet Saint-Etienne’s principal condition: that Saliba remained on loan for the duration of the 2019-20 campaign.

In 2014, Saint-Etienne had sold a 19-year-old Kurt Zouma to Chelsea for £12 million (excluding bonuses). They rated Saliba significantly higher, and with inflation in the market, settled on an asking price of £26 million.

Arsenal were Saliba’s preference. Part of Wenger’s legacy is the club’s extended support in France, and Saliba had worn an Arsenal replica kit while playing futsal back in Bondy. When Saliba ran into Matteo Guendouzi at a Parisian funfair during the summer, the pair talked excitedly about the possibility of teaming up in the not-too-distant future.

However, Arsenal’s serene progress stalled when a familiar rival entered the bidding: Tottenham. Arsenal’s north London neighbours made contact with both Saint-Etienne and Saliba’s agent Djibril Niang, insisting that they could offer better financial terms and a more immediate route to the first-team.

Saliba could not be swayed. In the end, Arsenal’s persistence — and head of football Raul Sanllehi’s personal relationship with Saint-Etienne president Bernard Caiazzo — were enough to get the deal done. Arsenal had already missed out on another ‘Bondynois’, Mbappe, several times in his nascent career. They would not make the same mistake with Saliba.


There is a curious irony about the fact that since signing for Arsenal, Saliba has become all the more important to Saint-Etienne. “He is a symbol of the club and its background,” explains Macky Diong of regional newspaper Le Progres. “He is almost the darling of the club, the one everybody loves.”

Never was that more clear than after the 1-0 win against rivals Lyon in early October. It was a huge result for struggling Saint-Etienne and at full-time Saliba was pictured, megaphone in hand, leading the crowd in celebrations. This 18-year-old, already cheerleader and ringmaster in the post-match pageantry.

Former coach Frasconi told Eurosport: “What I like is that even though he signed for Arsenal this summer, even though he is earning a lot of money, even though he is regularly called up to play for France, he has never changed and that is a sign of enormous maturity. Look at him after the derby: he’s the one who leads the atmosphere, who leads the victory cry. He plays like he is trying to build a long-term career with Saint-Etienne despite the fact that he’s joining the Gunners at the end of the year. He has an incredible mentality.”

It was a difficult start to the season for Saint-Etienne. When Gasset stepped down from the job at the end of last term, his assistant Ghislain Printant was promoted to succeed him. A dreadful run of form saw them languishing in the relegation zone, and Printant paid with his job. Saliba, still recovering after surgery to that troublesome groin injury, could do nothing but watch on.

During his rehabilitation, he spent a few days at Arsenal’s London Colney training ground. Officially, Saliba is an Arsenal player now: he is on loan at Saint-Etienne, and has even been registered in the Premier League to help him eventually qualify as a homegrown player. Arsenal were involved in the decision for Saliba to undergo surgery, and wanted to monitor his progress first-hand. For his part, the player has already begun English lessons in an attempt to accelerate his eventual adaptation.

His return to fitness — along with the appointment of the veteran Claude Puel as manager — has seen Saint-Etienne return to something like their old self. Saliba’s comeback coincided with a run of three clean sheets in as many games. Steadily, they are clawing their way back up the table.

Increased scrutiny has led to improved performances from Saliba. He appears determined to live up to his billing as the most expensive player in the club’s history. On the walk from the city centre north to the Stade Geoffroy-Guichard, Saint-Etienne fan Baptiste says, “Last season, he was already very good. But this year, we feel that he is learning from match to match. He’s a leader right now, especially for the defence.”

It’s a sentiment echoed by Puel, who told L’Equipe last week: “It’s hard to accept the fact we sold our best player, a young kid, to help fill the coffers. When you have to sell your gems to sort out the budget and then do short-term deals to fill in the gaps, you’re just being reactionary. It’s done now, and I’ve got nothing to say because it allows us to perform.”

This season with Puel, one of the best defensive coaches in France, could be hugely beneficial to Saliba. Against Monaco, a suspension for captain Perrin meant Saliba playing as the most central defender in a back three.

He’s already featured in a number of defensive roles. Diong explains to The Athletic, “He is currently playing in the centre of a three but he is also very comfortable in back four. He can play left centre-half, as well as right centre-half, and was even very good at right-back when he had to fill in there.”

The Monaco match is played in an atmosphere that Saliba later calls “strange”. After a number of flares were set off during a match against Lyon, Saint-Etienne have been heavily sanctioned, meaning they play this game with their two legendary ‘kop’ stands empty. The stadium known as ‘The Cauldron’ is, for once, somewhat tepid. Still, there’s plenty of passion on the pitch — and notably off it, as Monaco’s Ruben Aguilar assaults a VAR monitor after his late red card.

When Saliba strolls onto the field, the first thing that catches your eye isn’t his fluorescent boots or highlighted hair: it’s his sheer size. Saliba stands at 6ft 4in, and is unusually broad for one so young. There is no ‘filling out’ to do, and his power is impressive in the flesh. Unsurprisingly, he is dominant in the air. Last season, he won more than 60 per cent of his aerial duels. Only three defenders in Ligue fared better.

At 5ft 9in, Ben Yedder is the sort of sprightly forward with a low centre of gravity you imagine might give him trouble. However, playing in a highly-organised Saint-Etienne team, Saliba is largely untroubled.

A tall centre-half wearing No 4 at the heart of a back three may remind Arsenal fans of Per Mertesacker. However, it’s swiftly evident that Saliba has an ambition on the ball that far surpasses that of the German. In the course of the game, he sprays several long raking cross-field passes that are more reminiscent of David Luiz. When one misses the target, Saliba looks more surprised than disappointed.

He doesn’t always get it right. At one point in the first half, a deft feint and side-step inside his own penalty area draws gasps of admiration, only for Saliba to attempt a risky through ball that is cut out. Saliba can play. He just needs to learn when it’s appropriate.

That’s why this season will arguably be more beneficial to him that sitting on the bench at Arsenal — or worse, stepping into that chaotic defence. At Saint-Etienne, he has the time and space to learn.

“He still has to improve his concentration,” observes Diong. “Sometimes, he makes positional errors.” In a back three, that occasionally naivety is less exposed. He has experienced players around him — Mathieu Debuchy, once of Arsenal, is stationed on the right flank. M’Vila’s calming presence is absent in this game but former Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye is an able deputy. Not that Saliba needs much help. It’s he who leads the defensive line, arms outstretched, encouraging those around him and admonishing them when they fail to follow his instructions.

The better he plays, the more his impending departure hurts. On the walk away from the stadium, supporters lament letting him go so early. “The deal was too rushed,” says Mustapha, a season ticket holder with Saliba’s name on the back of his shirt. “From a sporting perspective, it’s a failure to sell. Economically, we can also now see that Arsenal should have paid more. It’s a pity.”

A pity for Saint-Etienne, perhaps — but not for Arsenal. On this evidence, Saliba will be worth the wait.

(Photo: Nicolas Tucat/AFP via Getty Images)

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il y a une heure, Ezio a dit :

Mais comment Sven pourrait mettre son véto sur un joueur qui l'a lui même proposé au club ? c'est logique la. Soyuncu c'était un nodoby donc soit il le propose au club, ou alors il le propose pas, mais il peut se rétracter au dernier moment. enfin bref 

 

La meilleure rumeur c'est celle comme quoi le Réal voudrait Saliba

 

 

Alors qu'il est même pas encore chez nous

 

 

 

Mettre son veto c'est pas le bon terme. Mais il prépare une liste et apres c'est la cellule de recrutement qui décide mais en aucun cas Emery ou le "head" coach.

 

pour preuve, Si tu prends le cas Guendouzi, souviens toi bien qu'il était en aucun cas N1 sur la liste de Sven. c'est Yacine Adli que la cellule de recrutement avait choisi Avant que ce dernier prolonge et reste au PSG notamment grâce à Henrique. 

 

Sven, il préparait des liste, il donnait sans doute son

choix MAis derriere je crois que c'est la cellule de recrutement qui choisissais. 

 

Pareil pour le cas Zyiech cet été alors peut être Emery en voulait pas, j en sais rien, mais c'est pas lui qui a directement tranché.

 

pour dernière preuve, tu prends les joueurs que voulait Emery : Banega, Zaha pour ne citer qu'eux ils sont jamais arriver au club, le seul qui est arrivé c'est Denis Suarez, et meme Suarez en y pensant je me demande Pas Si c'était pas plutot une idee de Raul (le meme Raul Qui voulait faire venir Malcolm en prêt, lui qui a des contacts à Barcelone) 

 

pour en revenir a Saliba, cette idee de prêt etait la meilleure idee PoUr lui, quand on voit comment notre equipe défend, on aurait stoppé net sa progression monstrueuse alors qu'il a que 19 ans...

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Encore blessé pour un mois 

 

Homme en forme de l'AS Saint-Etienne ces dernières semaines, la saison William Saliba (18 ans) connaît un coup d'arrêt. En effet, le défenseur central a reçu un coup lors du match face à Monaco dimanche soir, en clôture de la douzième journée de Ligue 1 (victoire 1-0). Résultat, une fissure du cinquième métatarse pour le joueur prêté par Arsenal qui va manquer le déplacement à Oleksandria en Europa League, ce jeudi soir.

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Désolé Wilo, il y a de fortes chances que tu ne joues pas la Champion’s League la saison prochaine et que tu arrives dans un beau merdier...

 

J’imagine pas la gueule de notre team si on continue dans cette médiocrité...

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il y a 18 minutes, Wiz a dit :

Désolé Wilo, il y a de fortes chances que tu ne joues pas la Champion’s League la saison prochaine et que tu arrives dans un beau merdier...

 

J’imagine pas la gueule de notre team si on continue dans cette médiocrité...

 

Au moins on sera content on va jouer qu'avec des jeunes :ph34r:.

 

Moi j'dis une petite compo comme celle là elle fait rêver:

 

Martinez-Bellerin-Saliba-Holding-Tierney-Willock-Gendouzi-Nelson-Saka-Martinelli-Pepe

 

Avec ça tu fait podium easy ! :ph34r:

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Il y a 4 heures, Kampberg a dit :

 

Au moins on sera content on va jouer qu'avec des jeunes :ph34r:.

 

Moi j'dis une petite compo comme celle là elle fait rêver:

 

Martinez-Bellerin-Saliba-Holding-Tierney-Willock-Gendouzi-Nelson-Saka-Martinelli-Pepe

 

Avec ça tu fait podium easy ! :ph34r:

 

Avec Unai en coach tu finis 10e lol 

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Le 10/11/2019 à 12:06, Kampberg a dit :

Au moins on sera content on va jouer qu'avec des jeunes :ph34r:.

 

Moi j'dis une petite compo comme celle là elle fait rêver:

 

Martinez-Bellerin-Saliba-Holding-Tierney-Willock-Gendouzi-Nelson-Saka-Martinelli-Pepe

 

Avec ça tu fait podium easy ! :ph34r:

En vrai elle est pas mal du tout cettte équipe ! 

 

Tu recrutes juste un MDC costaud (Partey, Doucouré, Soumaré par exemple), plus un DC agressif (genre Demiral) et tu joues en 4-3-3 :

 

                        Martinez

 

Bellerin.    Demiral   Saliba   Tierney

 

                           MDC

 

   Willock/Nelson         Guendouzi 

       (ou Ziyech) 

 

   Pepe            Martinelli         Saka

 

Avec Arteta au bord du terrain :amoureu:

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Plusieurs tweet vont dans ce sens. Je ne pense pas que ça va se faire mais si ça se faisait je suis assez partagé. D'un côté on freinerait sa progression qui est très bonne en cette moitié de saison pour jouer avec des plots et de l'autre ce serait déjà un renfort de qualité vu le secteur défensif. De plus on ne sait pas s'il apprendrait davantage avec Arteta qu'avec Puel.

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