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39 minutes ago, Arno said:
Faut pas deconner non plus, Unai y peut rien dans l'attitude de Xhaka à sa sortie.
Pour le brassard, le vestiaire à voté à l'unanimité pour Xhaka capitaine ce choix ne vient pas uniquement d'Emery.
C'est quand-même Emery qui a mis Xhaka dans cette position et ce pétage de plomb n'est du qu'à l'accumulation de frustration depuis plusieurs semaines. Il fait des matchs immondes, le public le prend en grippe, il continue de jouer alors qu'Unai aurait du le mettre sur le banc un moment pour calmer les choses, pour que Granit retrouve de la sérénité (si c'est possible chez lui) et que tout le monde se calme.
Pour ta 2ème phrase de nouveau c'est Emery qui a causé ce problème. Quel autre coach demande à ses joueurs de choisir le capitaine? Comme disait justement Keown dès qu'il a laissé cette liberté aux joueurs il s'est mis en mauvaise posture. Il dit "si tu laisses tes joueurs choisir le capitaine c'est un concours de popularité et plus de leadership" et je suis entièrement d'accord avec lui.
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8 minutes ago, MezMow said:
C’est du bullshit, bien au contraire je crois que Les 4 sont très proches du suisse car aucune barrière de la langue ;).
Je crois pas qu'il parle français ou très mal. Quand il fait des itw sur la télé Suisse romande il parle en allemand si me souvenirs sont bons.
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Le groupe semble avoir beaucoup d'estime pour Xhaka, ils l'ont nommé capitaine et il semblerait qu'il fasse l'unanimité auprès d'eux. Si Emery lui retire le brassard passe encore bien que ça soit un désaveu du vote de l'équipe mais s'il ne le fait plus jouer non seulement ça passera mal dans le groupe mais je vois bien en plus Xhaka rendre la situation encore plus toxique qu'elle l'est déjà.
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Aujourd'hui si on regarde bien Emery est dans une impasse dont il ne sortira pas. S'il prend des décisions en faveur de son groupe (maintient de Xhaka, entre autre, ) les fans vont le hair encore plus, s'il suit la vindicte populaire son groupe le lâchera.
Je ne vois pas d'issue favorable pour lui et il faudrait donc actionner le couperet au plus vite.
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[34] Granit Xhaka
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Je vous mets un article d'Amy Lawrence paru ce matin qui résume bien la situation. Emery est résponsable mais Xhaka et les fans doivent faire leur auto-critique également.
Par contre les joueurs n'ont pas l'air de l'avoir laché. Torreira apparement en pleur à cause du traîtement infligé à Xhaka, des joueurs qui lui rendent visitent chez lui pour lui remonter le moral. Mais p***** dans quelle m**** on se trouve quand tu lis ça!
Team-mates visit home of devastated Xhaka as Arsenal fans left to examine their own consciences
The mood caught fire quickly and all of a sudden the Emirates was engulfed by an emotional maelstrom. Behind the North Bank goal, reactions erupted when fans noticed Granit Xhaka walking off slowly, simmering, as he was substituted. The ironic cheers swirled around the stadium, which then morphed into boos. But while many joined the buzz that would humiliate and provoke the player into a sweary riposte, others in the feverish crowd felt staggered, appalled, that a groundswell could turn on the Arsenal captain — whoever he is and however trying his limitations may be.
Down on the touchline it was all too much for Lucas Torreira. The Uruguayan turned around and looked aghast at the fans that lined the tunnel. He outstretched his arms as if to ask: What the hell is this? He grew so upset he was actually moved to tears, standing there on the edge of the grass Xhaka had walked across on his tortuous route away from the pitch to get the hell out of there. Hector Bellerin went across to console Torreira. Unai Emery wrapped his arms around the little Uruguayan.
In the dressing room Xhaka’s fury in the heat of the moment was palpable, with his own take on the old fashioned idea of teacup throwing. Emotions ran high all around the stadium.
Later, at the bottom of the VIP elevators, there was a reunion of two former Arsenal captains, Pat Rice and Thierry Henry, who locked into a long, heartfelt embrace. What must they have been thinking of it all. Rice was one of those who proudly passed on the famed motto — “Remember who you are, what you are and who you represent” — to hundreds of players he worked with first as a team-mate, then youth coach, and finally assistant manager.
Footballers nowadays come from across the world and are invited to buy into a particular club. They are expected to get a feel for its personality and reputation. They are required to hold the baton. Torreira’s unhappiness summed up the confusion and upset felt by many within the squad to see a friend assailed by the club’s fans like that. Xhaka is their team-mate. Everybody inside the club likes him. He is one of the players who has made the greatest effort to understand the club and project in the dressing room what it is supposed to represent.
Some sources claim he left the ground before the game even finished although an Arsenal spokesman could not verify that. Such was his team-mates’ concern over his morale, that three senior players went to visit Xhaka at home on Sunday evening to offer support.
There are consequences of a rift like this between a popular team-mate and the fans in that it makes the rest of the squad ask themselves a lot of difficult questions. Might they feel a bit more vulnerable out on the pitch? Less sure of support? There are also obvious consequences for Xhaka, who will be soul searching about where he goes from here. He is devastated by the whole affair. Did the Swiss midfielder take a step that will be too difficult to track back from? Does he even want to?
Unai Emery also must bear the brunt of this situation. The “internal talks” he referenced that will take place this week to attempt to calm this storm will not be easy. The mess which needs untangling stems partly from Emery’s over-complicated decision over who would take over the Arsenal’s captaincy this season. It became a bigger issue than was necessary. Xhaka was upset at the time as Emery prevaricated. The weeks went on with no official announcement while he filled in the duties, leaving him feeling as if he was a last resort.
He has become the most visible lightening rod for all the complications Arsenal are currently suffering. The disaffection with the style of football. The flaws in the gameplan which have seen the team punished for errors defensively and with reduced creative service to the forwards offensively. Xhaka was a divisive player in any case, but he became more of a target for criticism because of the perception that a captain is more or less always bound to play when fit.
Of course there is another lightning rod in Mesut Ozil. Because the German is so controversially out of the firing line the only way he is currently involved in criticism is as a vehicle to point fingers at the man leaving him out. You could argue that to have one ostracised player is misfortune, to have two (if Xhaka ends up taking some time out as a result of this) looks like carelessness.
Xhaka this month became a father. With all the whirl of a new baby and the huge personal changes that come with parenthood, he is suddenly at a crisis point in his career. Maybe some will understand that there is a lot going on which may impact on how in control a person is of their emotional state. Maybe some recognise that if fans are on your back for weeks on end, eventually it’s an understandable human reaction to crack. Others won’t be so forgiving. That is the judgemental nature of having a public profile in the social media age.
He is not the first to be booed or jeered. Scapegoating is not a new phenomenon. Still, it is 11 years since Arsenal witnessed something comparable. Emmanuel Eboue came on as a substitute in a game against Wigan and had such a wretched match he was substituted later on to a cacophony of boos. He wept. Having said that, in the dressing room he was soon back dancing to music and putting on a positive face.
The Xhaka fallout was also in some ways reminiscent of when William Gallas abandoned his responsibilities towards the end of a match at Birmingham in 2008 when Eduardo Silva’s leg was broken and the concession of a late penalty pushed Gallas into storming off for a sit in the centre circle instead of defending. The circumstances were trying but Gallas was considered to have behaved in a manner not befitting the armband.
The Xhaka situation has plenty of fans examining their own consciences too. There is a disconnect between old fashioned notions of supporting the team through thick and thin and the more modern experience of paying your money and that entitling a member of the crowd to criticise as freely and vehemently as they see fit. One supporter who had been watching it all for more than four decades took his red season ticket wallet out of his coat, looked at it dolefully, and said, “I think that might be it for me.” A line had been crossed.
That essence of feeling part of it, of having something to believe in, was sorely stretched on Sunday at Arsenal. Fans, players, staff and the hierarchy are all acutely aware of that. Somehow Emery has to try to pull the team together when everything is feeling frayed.
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[10] Mesut Özil
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12 minutes ago, PierU said:??
https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1187101884248739840?s=19
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[10] Mesut Özil
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Ça sent l'absence d'œil dans le groupe demain.
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Je partage ici un article intéressant qui parle des playmaker, pas ceux qui sont forcément crédité d'un assist, d'une "key pass" ou d'un goal mais ceux qui participe à l'action qui amène un goal depuis l'arrière, le joueur qui déclenche une action.
Michael Cox: Jorginho, Dale Stephens and the Premier League’s true playmakers
What constitutes a playmaker?
In official terms, it exclusively refers to players who are regular assisters. Two years ago, the Premier League introduced a ‘Playmaker of the Season’ award to honour the player with the most assists. It’s been won by two Belgians: Kevin De Bruyne and Eden Hazard, with 16 and 15 respectively.
But that only refers to a specific part of playmaking. Look at it from another perspective — literally ‘making the play’ — and it seems to refer to a different type of footballer entirely, someone who operates deeper and prompts the passing moves which eventually culminate with an assist and a goal. The term ‘deep-lying playmaker’ covers this a little more but that specifically refers to a holding midfielder with a good passing range. What if a team’s true playmaker, the man who makes the play, is actually a full-back? Or a centre-forward?
To take account of passing contributions that aren’t credited with an assist or a ‘key pass’, a worthwhile exercise is counting the ‘shot-ending sequence involvements’, to use Opta’s definition, of each player. In other words, rather than just crediting the final passer, you can go back and credit every player involved in the passing move leading up to the goal.
“The reason I like these new metrics is because they help us quantify the players ‘you can’t measure with stats’,” said Tom Worville, senior football data analyst at Opta, who calculates the statistics. “For example, I like to think of ‘shot-ending sequence involvements’ as the ‘Iniesta stat’, crediting those players who are integral to attacking moves, but not always providing the final ball.”
Sometimes, this is particularly important because the most impressive contribution to a goal comes from neither the goalscorer nor the assister.
Take, for example, Liverpool’s equaliser at the Etihad Stadium last season, in an eventual 2-1 Manchester City victory. Liverpool rely heavily on their full-backs for creativity — Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson finished last season as the side’s most prolific assisters. But Alexander-Arnold, in particular, was also crucial in building up play before more advanced players claimed the assist.
This goal was a good example. It ends with Roberto Firmino heading into an open goal. Robertson had knocked the ball across for his header but it was Alexander-Arnold’s pinpoint diagonal pass in behind the Manchester City defence which truly created the goal.
He wasn’t credited with an assist. He is, however, credited with an involvement in the sequence.
Fifteen players on this list are midfielders of some description, which leaves four who play up front. These are Burnley’s Ashley Barnes, Bournemouth’s Callum Wilson, Newcastle’s Joelinton and Wolves’ Raul Jimenez. It’s significant that these are the four Premier League sides who have averaged the least possession this season — there’s less opportunity for players in deeper positions to contribute to shots. Barnes is the most telling case study in this respect: of his 25 contributions, 21 have involved him taking the shot (in two of these, he was involved in the build-up too).
Some names are predictable. De Bruyne’s all-round brilliance means he contributes heavily in all three aspects — contributing to passing moves from deep, playing dangerous key passes, and also attempting shots. It’s no surprise he’s way out in front so far this season.
Others are more surprising. Arsenal’s Nicolas Pepe hasn’t yet shown much to suggest he’s close to justifying his club-record transfer fee, yet these statistics show that he’s been heavily involved for Arsenal this season. Further inspection of the numbers shows that he’s Arsenal’s most prolific chance creator and has attempted only four fewer shots than Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, despite playing 160 less minutes. He’s also been involved in plenty of other moves.
The players who benefit most from using this measure, however, are deep central midfielders. Chelsea’s Jorginho has attempted just six shots and played nine key passes but he’s played a part in another 36 passing moves, evidence of his metronomic passing style, which doesn’t translate into assists but contributes heavily to Chelsea’s passing style. He was involved in the build-up to Mason Mount’s goal against Southampton last time out, playing a good ball into Willian, who in turn provided the assist for Mount.
Here’s a good example from Brighton’s most recent game, the 3-0 victory over Tottenham. Stephens’ threaded pass between the lines into Pascal Gross gets Brighton on their way, in the lead-up to Neal Maupay’s opener.
Last season, the top ten featured Raheem Sterling, Sadio Mane, Sergio Aguero, Hazard, Silva, Salah, Alexandre Lacazette, Leroy Sane, Bernardo Silva and Aubemeyang.
But this list is arguably too dominated by attacking players, especially if we want to find those who start moves from deep. So the list of build-up contributions alone — ignoring shots and key passes — shows Jorginho and Stephens at the top of the list. Harry Winks, who is a classic ‘safe’ passing midfielder, with no assists this season, is also prominent, while it’s notable that Chelsea’s Cesar Azpilicueta is the only non-midfielder on the list.
Last season, Jorginho was also top of this list. While criticised for not recording a single assist all year, Jorginho was involved in no fewer than 145 moves which ended in a shot. Aymeric Laporte was second on the list, effectively replacing Otamendi from the previous campaign. Kante, David Luiz and Antonio Rudiger all figured highly, reflecting Chelsea’s extensive build-up play under Maurizio Sarri.
It’s also worthwhile looking at the players who actually start the sequences that end in goals. Alexander-Arnold and De Bruyne are yet again prominent this season but Jorginho is way out in front here, showing the value of a player like him in that deep midfield role, capable of receiving the ball in tight situations and playing intelligent, measured passes to team-mates.
Otherwise, the data here from the past couple of seasons effectively shows the type of players who start moves from deep — by and large, central midfielders. Two seasons ago, the top ten was Fabregas, Eriksen, De Bruyne, N’Golo Kante, Salah, Xhaka, Fernandinho, Luka Milovojevic, Dele Alli and Abdoulaye Doucoure. Last year, behind the aforementioned top two, it includes Kante, Bernardo Silva, Eriksen, David Silva, Hazard, Doucoure again, Wilfried Ndidi and Joao Moutinho.
There are some limitations to these numbers — of course, they rely upon players in advanced positions making the most of the passes they receive. Players at the bigger clubs are inevitably at an advantage.
But it serves as an interesting way to measure the contribution of players like Stephens and Jorginho; we know they don’t contribute heavily in terms of assists, and pass completion rates feel somewhat irrelevant in measuring their significance. By measuring how often they contribute to — or even start — attacks that end in a goal, we can further understand their importance.
An unfashionable player like Stephens probably won’t collect many fantasy team points this season but go beyond the basic numbers and his importance becomes clear.
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[10] Mesut Özil
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C'est peut-être de la comm mais s'il fait vraiment ce qu'il dit, s'il s'entraîne plus que d'autre et qu'il n'est même pas sur le banc c'est que le problème est ailleurs et il ne jouera plus tant qu'Emery sera là.
Quote“Pre-season went very well and although things were disrupted by the [moped] attack, since then I’ve been fully available and when the coach has selected me I’ve been ready, played and always tried to give my best.
“I’ve trained at the same level my whole career but because I’ve not had minutes recently, I’m doing extra work with the fitness coach and in the gym to get even fitter than normal. I know what is needed and believe in myself.”
Ozil’s mention of Emery is in reference to a reported breakdown in the pair’s relationship, but the player expresses no negative sentiment: “I’ve worked under some of the biggest coaches in the world — Arsene, Jose Mourinho, Joachim Low — and always I show respect. It’s the same for Unai.
“We might not see eye-to-eye on everything but that’s normal, it’s life and it’s the same with my family and friends. You have to accept it and go forward.”
What if Emery, also contracted until 2021, never selects Ozil again?
“I don’t think that will happen. I will play. I believe in myself to do what he asks of me and I want to help the club to reach our goals.
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Et un penalty manqué
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3 hours ago, Markeuls said:
Toi qui l'a pas mal suivi, c'est quoi son lien avec l'Italie ?
Son père a des descendants italien.
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Il est out jusqu'à fin novembre, problème à un genou.
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Tu peux regarder sur le shop officiel également.
https://arsenaldirect.arsenal.com/Mens/Arsenal-Retro-%26-Heritage/c/mens-retro
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Apparemment c'était prévu de longue date qu'il ne voyagerait pas à OT et qu'il ne serait pas sélectionné donc beaucoup de bruits pour rien je crois.
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[34] Granit Xhaka
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2 hours ago, Chicou said:Ils ont montré le ralenti 1000 fois sur canal et sur les 1000 fois on voit qu'il se baisse quand la balle arrive, où est la fake news du coup?
J'en peu plus de Granit non plus mais il faut quand même avouer qu'il ne baisse pas la tête mais va chercher le ballon, avant que Sokratis le dévie.
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Qu'on lui donne le brassard bordel!!!
QuoteI used to love Thierry [Henry, who played for Arsenal from 1999 to 2007] and I’ve always loved the kits because I used to play as Arsenal on the PlayStation. So, when I signed for them, I already had a connection. I don’t hate Tottenham because they told me to hate them. I hate them because I love Arsenal.
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« C’est très dur de se rendre tous les jours à l’entraînement et de ne pas apprécier votre partenaire – et cela m’est arrivé par le passé, avec des gardiens qui étaient trop arrogants et ne respectaient pas les entraîneurs. Aller à l’entraînement en sachant que vous allez devoir faire face à cela tous les jours, ce n’est pas facile, donc on s’assure d’avoir un bon groupe. On va dîner ensemble aussi parce que c’est toujours bien d’avoir une bonne relation avec tout le monde. Ce sont mes amis, mais mes rivaux sur le terrain.
Il parle de Szcsesny?
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1 hour ago, KalaCrazy said:
Arrête le retour de AMN je veux même pas en parler ! Le fait qu'il soit absent contre man U est un des meilleurs choses qui pouvait nous arriver..
Il sera disponible contre Utd, il a purgé sa peine mardi soir.
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Il a réussi plus de centre en 80min que nos ARG réuni en 5 ans!
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Nouveau contrat pour lui, jusqu'en 2023! Très bonne nouvelle.
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20 minutes ago, papapoupa31 said:
Deuxième point noir Mustafi. Mais bon quand t'achètes un joueur 4x son prix, dur de le revendre moins de 2x.
On l'utilise comme on peut, genre l'envoyer au tirage au sort de l'Europa league. A moins qu'il soit à Monaco pour un transfert?
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Ca risque surtout d'être beaucoup plus dur d'obtenir un permis pour les joueurs qui vont arriver ces prochaines années, mais ça m'étonnerait qu'on en arrive à cette situation.
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Si on veut parler de crédit et paiements différés alors mettons entre autre les 10mio qu'on doit verser à la Samp pour Torreira cet été.
Au final on a acheté des joueurs pour en gros €150mio. Le reste c'est un peu du bla bla.
[34] Granit Xhaka
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Emery a foutu les joueurs dans une sale position en leur demandant de choisir le capitaine! Comment pourraient-ils dire aujourd'hui qu'ils ne veulent plus de Granit comme capitaine alors que ce sont eux qui l'ont élu? Encore une idée de génie d'Emery qui n'a pas eu les couilles de choisir son capitaine lui même alors que le résultat aurait sûrement été le même vu que Xhaka portait le brassard avant cette mascarade d'élection.